Greetings and salutations

[Whatif]

Hello to people inhabiting the real world,

Even with my angilcan upbringing, my religious beliefs were never that strong because somehow it just seemed wrong, especially when I was told to leave rationality behind and take a leap of faith if I wanted to 'find god'. I now know that at age 14, I was more a deist than a theist but as I got older the supernatural world just got plain silly and up until 15 years ago I counted myself as an agnostic. In the end though I had to investigate and evaluate my (for want of a better word) belief system and came to the conclusion that there was no valid rationale for gods except in the rantings of fundamentalists who, for all I could see were only interested in the end of the world and the promulgation of hate.

Anyhow, great to find a group of rational people and look forward to interesting times.

[Fearless]

Hi Whatif... welcome to the forums, enjoy your stay :)

[atheist_angel]

Welcome Whatif. :)

[Praxis]

Hello and welcome :)

[wolty]

Greetings whatif. Nice nick btw.
Enjoy yourself here. :)

[Whatif]

So my 'religious' friend says - Whatif there's no god? Doesn't that mean there are no morals and you can do WTF you want to do? And I say to him, Whatif there is a god? - 'they' still do WTF they want, because they can, and their god gives them freakin' brownie points (read - do not go to gaol)- Duh
My religious friend is real - was sexually abused as a young person within his 'church' and still can't get a grip (no pun intended) of the real world. Try as I might, I can't get him to move past a supernatural view of the world (although he's moved from fundamentalist to establishment).
Organised religion makes me so freakin' angry, even when they do 'good' stuff, they put markers on how you have to accept their charity. Oh, and it doesn't matter how many academic degrees I get, I won't be called the "most reverend" {insert name}. because I didn't go to a university for the creative arts in La La Land.
Grrr. most reverend - most retarded more likely (most pompous?)

Oops - pontificating again - I hope so

Cheers - Don't buy beer - brew it!

Thanx for your Welcome

Whatif