Discussion: genotype anomalies and health

[atheist_angel]

MOD NOTE: this thread is an offshoot from Gruber's "Coming Out" post as it has now taken off as separate discussion. Thanks, Praxis

Edit: content was not necessarily relevant to autism issues, but genotype anomalies and their affect on health.

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

I'm not sure it is autism that is causing the health problems. I have many of the problems regarding light and sounds too. Although I'm pretty good at eating spicy stuff. I do admit though there are some foods that smell awful and I just cannot eat large quantities of them as a result of their smell. Others have a strange texture such as the edges of bread.

I think strictly speaking this is more to do with sensory overload rather than health deficiency. But if you are getting sick and suffering inflamation it could be just a different health issue.

To be honest I do not know everything about autism even though I have it myself. But what you are describing regarding foods sounds more like an allergic reaction.

I suppose it depends on your sort of build too. If you are a large build you may not get sick as often you know what I mean.

[atheist_angel]

Edit: content was not necessarily relevant to autism issues, but genotype anomalies and their affect on health.

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

I do tend to get nauseous over certain smells. I can't recall ever vomiting as a result though.

I've seen pretty healthy people with severe autism (mostly at school back when I was still around there) so yeah as far as health issues are concerned it is probably not much to do with autism.

I wonder if we should take this discussion further via PM or in another thread. Just make sure you don't mention all of this to theists. ;)

When I was younger my parents as well as teachers of the Christian school I was at somehow thought I was devil posessed. All those God bless you's and prayers to Mah Fatima tuz Zahra etcetera, you know. :D

[atheist_angel]

I just got back from seeing a eye specialist and i found out its not actually a grwoth on my eye (as someone told me:mad:) but a degredation of the cornea and apparently its happening to both my eyes iam now going to be seeing more doctors to get contacts and treatments
I would be so mad. Do they know what's causing the degradation?

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

iam now going to be seeing more doctors to get contacts and treatmentsI used to have contacts myself. They can be annoying sometimes. Especially when things go wrong when you attempt to insert them in your eyes.

[gruber]

I would be so mad. Do they know what's causing the degradation?


The specialist said that 99% of the time the cause is unknown and iam one of those percentage

[gruber]

The actual treatment is where they put some special drops in my eye then use a ultraviloet light and this ages the cornea because for some reason once it is around 35 years old the degredation stops

[atheist_angel]

When did I create this thread? :confused:


:p Hahaha! :D Ahaha!

cracking up!
-Angel :cool:

[atheist_angel]

Thank you Praxis! ;)

[Praxis]

Thank you Praxis! ;)
No prob AA - it was veering off into a very separate topic so it was through best to move it and let it run independently of Gruber's "coming out" thread.

:)

[atheist_angel]

@Gruber: have you ever had a chromosome analysis?

[gruber]

@Gruber: have you ever had a chromosome analysis?


What to find out that iam actually a girl, so that when i put on a dress that wrong feeling goes away:D

[atheist_angel]

Actually, I don't know your gender, but analysis can tell you if you are at risk for specific health issues.

[gruber]

I'am a bloke:cool:, I havent had any genetic, chromosone analysis

[atheist_angel]

Wow. They did mine just as soon as they noticed I was rocking back and forth and behaving autistic.

Congratulations on being a Bloke!

[gruber]

Congratulations on being a Bloke!


YAY :D

[Phroso]

During the time I've been reading various posts on this forum, it seems to me that mental conditions such as Asperger's Syndrome, Autism and ADHD, affect quite a number of members.

Given the seeming frequency of reference to those conditions, I can't help wondering if such mental aberrations are to be found more often in the atheist community than might be found in a general sample of the population?

If such is the case, perhaps such conditions can also be an aid to rational thinking and point the sufferer inevitably to atheism?

BTW, Please don't take this post too seriously because my hypothesis is intended to be light hearted and I don't want to find myself under attack!

[Podblack]

I think it's more a symptom of the internet?

I have relatives who are congenitally deaf. Back when the TTY modem first came out (Telecommunications Device for the Deaf), it was revolutionary. Suddenly you could connect with others and sound wasn't the barrier it used to be.

Now apply that to any internet forum with people of all kinds. How many people (for example) are going to be attending the GAC who have nothing to do with the forum? Lots. More than here, for a start. But those in the limited circles that we move in online, may be more comfortable with identifying themselves on the spectrum, because the internet allows for easy communication.

I can't help wondering if such mental aberrations are to be found more often in the atheist community than might be found in a general sample of the population?

Not a mental aberration - please don't use that in future? Being on the autism spectrum is classed as a pervasive developmental disorder, but it's certainly not the term you've used.

I've read that "Some people don't like ‘person with autism’ or ‘person with Aspergers’, because it suggests the autism is an accessory they wear rather than an intrinsic sense of their being" - Aspergian I have heard being used; it's generally best to ask if you're not sure. I don't use "Aspie" as I don't have Autism and I don't think I should use it if I am not.

If such is the case, perhaps such conditions can also be an aid to rational thinking and point the sufferer inevitably to atheism?

Again, you're using a very small sample - the internet. There's plenty of irrationality demonstrated by all kinds of people and certainly, someone can arrive at atheism for "irrational" reasons.

At the risk of being rude myself:
http://www.unc.edu/depts/jomc/academics/dri/idog.jpg

[Phroso]

Not a mental aberration - please don't use that in future? Being on the autism spectrum is classed as a pervasive developmental disorder, but it's certainly not the term you've used.


Sorry about that. I had a feeling I might be skating on thin ice.

I checked my dictionary at the time of writing and found that the word "aberration" could be used to describe:

1. Biology: A characteristic that deviates from the normal type.

2. Noun: A departure from what is normal, usual, or expected.

Consequently, I thought those various medical conditions could be accurately described as aberrations.

In my mind the word does not have a derogatory implication and I'm sure you are aware that no offence was intended.

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

I'd much rather it being called an "abberation" than being called "Autie" or "Aspie" - at least it doesn't make me sound like some kind of ridiculous cult member of the Order of the Giant Nonexistent Space Doggy or something. I fail to see how "mental aberration" is much more offensive than "mental illness" or "mental disability" in this case.