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Sir Patrick Crocodile
16th October 2009, 10:39 PM
A lot of religious people tend to have very long stories about how God has "saved" them to the extent that people ooh and aah and mmm over their "experiences" and what not. Stories like this:Like, I was totally trippin' on those drugs man. And, like, I was bad and, like, totally helpless and poor man. But, like, when a pastor came to me on, like, his Harley Davidson and, like, totally said "Like, hop on and I'll show you the way of Jesus Christ man" and, like, after totally believing in, like, Jesus Christ and, like, God and shit, you know, my life was, like, totally saved dude. And, like, you know, now I, like, have a beautiful wife and, like, 155 children and, like, you know, 12 billion dollars and, like, totally a ship house man. And, like, you know, now I am, like, totally the CEO of Major Corporation dude. And, like, you know, I'm a happy camper man. All thanks to Jesus Christ man. Now, you know, man, that's totally, like, gnarly dude.Basically now I'm going to show you that it works better in reverse.
Crocodile
Religious reptile:

Ignorant
Stupid
Lame
Arrogant
Misfit
Incompetent
Cowardly



Pathetic
Irrational
Greedy

Rebellious reptile:

Audacious
Transformed
Heathen
Enhanced
Improved
Standalone
Thriving
Inexplicable
Courageous



Rational
Expectational
Bold
Exploratory
Logical

If there are any believers out there I strongly recommend you read this post. This is proof that you don't need religion to enhance your life. You need to dump religion instead.

davo
16th October 2009, 11:00 PM
nice croc, Misaq eh?

"And the breaker of the covenant shall face his God as Kafir and apostate after his death. He is beyond redemption by the power of God. He will be thrown on his own soul and shall curse him and shall extend hell to him which hell is the worst of all places. There is no God but the Merciful and Benevolent. The Defaulter turns away his face from the worship of God and turns it to the worship of idols. All Kafirs worship idols and thus shall become attached to the idol and the grace of God shall destroy the breaker of the oath with rapidity and shall confine him to hell in which there is nothing but torture"

Sir Patrick Crocodile
16th October 2009, 11:48 PM
Yep. Misaq means I'm qualified to the extent that I know a hell of a lot about the Quran than non-Misaqees supposedly...

And of course as a result of my actions I should theoretically be a
HELLS REPTILE

atheist_angel
17th October 2009, 07:21 PM
Rebellious reptile:

Audacious
Transformed
Heathen
Enhanced
Improved
Standalone
Thriving
Inexplicable
Courageous



Rational
Expectational
Bold
Exploratory
Logical

If there are any believers out there I strongly recommend you read this post. This is proof that you don't need religion to enhance your life. You need to dump religion instead.
:cool: _ http://www.stickergiant.com/imgs/250/felvishonk.gif _ :cool:

Sir Patrick Crocodile
17th October 2009, 08:06 PM
HONK!

atheist_angel
17th October 2009, 08:17 PM
Elvis the saltwater crocodile makes himself at home (http://www.australiantraveller.com/component/content/article/3572) in NSW's Australian Reptile Park

Sir Patrick Crocodile
17th October 2009, 08:18 PM
Woops. Forgot mah sunnies and guitar. Uh huh huh.

atheist_angel
17th October 2009, 11:42 PM
:eek: Pet lover leaves her husband for a crocodile :eek:
Thursday, October 15, 2009 Vicki Lowing chooses Johnie over husband Greg
:p Viki Lowing loves her crocodile more than her husband LINK (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?Pet_lover_leaves_her_husband_for_a_cr ocodile&in_article_id=752507&in_page_id=34) :p

There were nothing but crocodile tears for Vicki Lowing when she chose Johnie over her husband, Greg. When Greg issued his 52-year-old wife with an ultimatum, it's me or him, she opted for the younger one in her life: Johnie - her 13-year-old pet crocodile.

'Husbands can look after themselves but my crocodile can't make meals,' she said. Johnie was just a baby when it was left on the doorstep of her home in Victoria, Australia, in 1996 and she treated the croc like a son. Ironically, since her husband left her in 2005, she has discovered Johnie is a girl.

Praxis
18th October 2009, 06:44 AM
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Fantastic post crocodile - thank you so much!

I knew I liked you! (confirmation of this includes, but is not limited to: you ride a Honda - so do I :) - and you have Asperger's - so has my son :)).

Anyway, I love your dot point comparison list as well - apart from anything, it shows great personal insight and understanding.

I really hope you can make it to the convention.

Cheers.

atheist_angel
18th October 2009, 09:46 AM
I think personal "self inventory" is very important. The problem is that devoutly religious people only use the <insert holy book here>, or dogma and propaganda from various corrupted evangelistic cultures, as their checklist. To me, atheism also represents rising above that by using reason and common sense [of the ironic Thomas Paine variety, if you know what I mean] instead. Good job Croc!

Sir Patrick Crocodile
18th October 2009, 10:42 AM
Thanks guys! I must admit this is all very easy to do on text. But I must admit since I became full blown atheist (the "18+" section in the first post of this thread) I am a lot better even otherwise now.

And since credit is to be given where it is due I doubt I could have progressed any further if it wasn't for all you guys!

You know for a bunch of immoral devil worshippers we are nicer than the kind moral followers of God now a days. ;)

Sir Patrick Crocodile
18th October 2009, 10:50 AM
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Fantastic post crocodile - thank you so much!No worries mate.

I knew I liked you! (confirmation of this includes, but is not limited to: you ride a Honda - so do I :) - and you have Asperger's - so has my son :)).Interesting. Yes I remember you (or was it Kristy or tandytripper?) mentioned that you had a 13 year old with Asperger's syndrome. I know there are a few autistics around this forum too like The Irreverent Mr. Black and atheist_angel for example.

What sort of Honda do you ride?

Anyway, I love your dot point comparison list as well - apart from anything, it shows great personal insight and understanding.Thanks for that. Note it is much easier to communicate in an online forum than it is in real life.

In real life it is kind of like one single long unmoderated thread with billions of posts and absolutely no regard for the original topic. And it is more or less like every "member" is an administrator! This confuses me a lot.

Also in real life you don't have emoticons or paragraphs or whitespace or any sort of BBCode or HTML or user profiles or anything like that. It's just every Guest is an Admin at the same time.

That's the sort of way I can probably explain the chaos.

I really hope you can make it to the convention.

Cheers.Sorry to say this but I'm not sure I'll make it. Apart from transport issues and finance issues (there's no way my parents will support this!) I am having second thoughts about it. It seems bloody huge to me and personally I just can't handle that many people.

My Year 12 formal (one hell of a long time ago) was perhaps the last straw so I have tried it before.

Even though initially it was somewhat enjoyable after being there for around 1-2 hours I became stressed.

Note that I knew a lot of the people and got to hang around with other disabled people too (the special ed people) so it was alright.

With the convention there are a hell of a lot more people than in any Year 12 formal and also there are just too many people I do not know.

Praxis
18th October 2009, 01:38 PM
What sort of Honda do you ride?
I tootle around on a little SL30 - great little dual purpose thing and nice and small, which means I can touch the ground (I'm only 5'1 :o ). Actually we just came in from a ride which was eventful - my gear lever came off not once but twice! :eek: Suffice it to say I limped home very cautiously indeed, not getting out of 4th gear very much.

I am having second thoughts about it. It seems bloody huge to me and personally I just can't handle that many people.
Understand completely. My son can't handle large groups or crowds either. What seems like a fun day at a fete for us is a total nightmare for him. Same as you, he will give things a go but becomes stressed fairly quickly. Sometimes I forget this.

Note that I knew a lot of the people and got to hang around with other disabled people too (the special ed people) so it was alright.
Out of curiosity, do you really see yourself as "disabled"? I don't see my son like that at all. Different, a bit eccentric, occasionally outright odd, but not disabled.

With the convention there are a hell of a lot more people than in any Year 12 formal and also there are just too many people I do not know.
Yep, understand totally. It will be daunting for many people attending on their own, even without the added bonus of something like Asperger's!

Cheers!

TÐöer
18th October 2009, 01:48 PM
Standalone


You're not alone croc, we've got your back.

Sir Patrick Crocodile
18th October 2009, 02:07 PM
I tootle around on a little SL30 - great little dual purpose thing and nice and small, which means I can touch the ground (I'm only 5'1 :o ). Actually we just came in from a ride which was eventful - my gear lever came off not once but twice! :eek: Suffice it to say I limped home very cautiously indeed, not getting out of 4th gear very much.You could have stopped and some how pulled the clutch in and adjusting the gear... Not sure if you can do that with an SL30 but a similar thing happened to me with the CB250RS after flying off it at 40km/h where the link between the gear pedal and the small lever on the box had come off. It was pretty much worn down anyway so I got a new one from Penrith Motorcycle Wreckers for $15 which isn't too bad.
Understand completely. My son can't handle large groups or crowds either. What seems like a fun day at a fete for us is a total nightmare for him. Same as you, he will give things a go but becomes stressed fairly quickly. Sometimes I forget this.Yes. It is not difficult to become over-ambitious. Sometimes I notice it is easy for people with AS to learn things the hard way unfortunately.Out of curiosity, do you really see yourself as "disabled"? I don't see my son like that at all. Different, a bit eccentric, occasionally outright odd, but not disabled.I suppose it depends on how badly your son is affected. For me it affects my verbal and nonverbal communication, my ability to do multiple things at once, my level of concentration (hence my studies), my stress, and being obsessed with things for long periods of time, listening to the same song over and over without getting bored, being an extremely slow learner, etc. For me it is a disability rather than a minor difference.Yep, understand totally. It will be daunting for many people attending on their own, even without the added bonus of something like Asperger's!

Cheers!Attending on my own isn't the problem as such. The problem is the other people that are attending. The noise and talking sound horrible for me. Even in lecture theaters I find it hard and so often have to go there after the first 10 minutes and exit before the last 10 minutes.

Sir Patrick Crocodile
18th October 2009, 02:09 PM
http://rynosseros.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/BlackNotFonz.jpg
Something about Hondas, I guess?So I guess you're a Fonzie wannabe eh? ;)

Sir Patrick Crocodile
18th October 2009, 02:26 PM
Did the Highly Esteemed Saurian read the title of the JPG?

Anyway, this was 1973 or very early 1974: I oughta sue them.http://rynosseros.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/BlackNotFonz.jpg (http://rynosseros.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/BlackNotFonz.jpg)

Sir Patrick Crocodile
18th October 2009, 03:49 PM
How about James Dean then?

rainbowings15
21st October 2009, 10:59 PM
Crock, what can I say! I think you are a real champion. Thanks for sharing your story. What an atriculate clever person you are.:)

Sir Patrick Crocodile
22nd October 2009, 09:53 AM
Well that wasn't the case when I was religious remember. ;)

robertkd
22nd October 2009, 10:24 PM
arise mr croc ;)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2516/4034807574_de83f367a8_o.jpg

Ford
23rd October 2009, 04:14 AM
Very well done, Mr Croc. It's refreshing to read such honesty, including the darker emotions like revenge.

And Rob, well chosen piccy representing the parable of the carrot and stick. God holding out the bait (Heaven) while getting ready to bash you up with the stick (Hell).

robertkd
23rd October 2009, 10:48 AM
Indeed Ford, although it could also be interpreted as the stick is nothing more then a security blanket for the the guy, who in turn considers the the crocodile prefers a hand full of chicken as opposed to a more complete and satisfying meal,...:D

Mind you, what amazed me was how a 6mtr crocodile could manage to hide behind a single reed in the water, the only sound it made moving into that position (slightly higher then shown) was the water running off it's body.

wolty
23rd October 2009, 07:06 PM
Thanks Croc. I feel you have enlightened me about many different things and I actually feel a better person for it. Hope all goes well for you.

Sir Patrick Crocodile
24th October 2009, 12:27 PM
Glad it helped. :)