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rainbowings15
24th September 2009, 11:11 PM
I'm more of an agnostic so put me in Fantasy Isand if you want. Belief is such a funny thing...I remember my father telling my sister, brother and I when we were very young that there was a magic street in our roof space. Complete with shops, presents and snow. But the trick was in order to believe we were not to look in the roof or it would all disapear. We felt special. We were blessed with our house being chosen for this magic place. So when we were playing outside with the other children we silently felt better than them. Many years later(I was about 11) we were playing hide and seek and I opened the trap door to the roof. Even though I knew it was a lie I must admit to being a bit disapointed that all I saw were spider webs and lots of dusty timber beams. I officialy stopped believing in our magic roof.
I see a conection to this story to that of relligion. Our house is better than your house or football team, race, school, suburb, car or evan religion. We are better than you. Religion plays and uses that awful weakness of humanitity so well people are evan giving their life for it.
Dad ment us to see magic in an innocent way which was areally sweet thing but it brought out the ancient "we are better than you".
Many people need to believe in their "magic roof" because knowing that it's just spider webs and dusty timber is just is too scarey.
My most important "magic roof" awakening was watching my 52 year old mother die a slow and agonising death. She didn't walk through the door shiney and new with her beautiful smile. She cried in agony and starved to death because religion would not let her go with dignity or mercy. God left the building in my life then.

atheist_angel
25th September 2009, 08:31 AM
I went through an agnostic phase before I became an atheist.
You'll grow out of it. :p

"But the trick was in order to believe we were not to look in the roof or it would all disappear. We felt special. We were blessed with our house being chosen for this magic place. So when we were playing outside with the other children we silently felt better than them."

"I see a connection to this story to that of religion. Our house is better than your house or football team, race, school, suburb, car or even religion. We are better than you. Religion plays and uses that awful weakness of humanity so well people are even giving their life for it."

Dad meant us to see magic in an innocent way which was a really sweet thing but it brought out the ancient "we are better than you".
;) Good JAAL material here.


Dear Jeebus, Thank you for Blessing us. We know that in your wisdom, you have blessed us because we are better than everyone else. Thank you for making us better than everyone else.
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:rolleyes: Well, all our early homosapiens and neanderthal souls must be feeling pretty pissed off that they didn't get through the pearly gates due to...

:cool: Oh, that's brilliant satire. I'm sorry I missed that thread before.

gord
25th September 2009, 09:13 AM
Nice to meet you Diagonalist...

It can take a lot to work through what ones beliefs, or lack of, actually are, or did so in my case. Its not just a matter of logic, there's how one feels about things, from how we grew up, our social surroundings etc. and that seems to have a sort of inertia of its own.

For me, reading some books such as God Delusion and listening to some people like Feynman express their personal views, and likewise hearing some fundamentalist discussions all played a part.


I only joined this forum a couple days ago, btw. Its nice to meet other atheists with a healthy sense of humour... [pulls finger]

rainbowings15
25th September 2009, 10:40 PM
Thanks :)

Praxis
26th September 2009, 05:47 AM
She cried in agony and starved to death because religion would not let her go with dignity or mercy. God left the building in my life then.
This is beautiful in its dignity and understanding, whilst being terribly sad. The story of the magic roof and your understanding of how it made you feel and the correlation to religion is also very insightful.

Welcome to the forum.