OMG LOL

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

"Science brings men nearer to God" - Louis Pasteur

"The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no God".- Psalms 14:1

Atheists, please stop making claims without support or scientific evidence. Also, please stop asking questions which were already answered in this video. EX. "Who created God?" Again, the 1st law confirms energy is eternal. Before the universe began, there must have existed an ORIGINAL, initial, energy source which has ALWAYS existed. This initial, original, energy source IS God. ( GOD IS THE CREATOR WHO IS UNCREATED)

Atheists may say " Well, all of the energy in the universe could have derived itself from multiple energy sources, not just a single one".That maybe true, but it still poses a serious problem. Multiple or single unintelligent energy source(s) would most likely result in chaos and disorder.

(cont) Because they can't regulate their outflow of energy thus, dispersing uncontrolled and violent emissions of energy without organization or order unlike an intelligent energy source (GOD).

Every example of DUMB energy source(s) that we can observe are volatile and destructive by nature and will NEVER create organization . Examples : the sun, tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes. Sure tornadoes or hurricanes may APPEAR organized but, they will never CREATE organization.

You can still hope that all of the energy in the universe originated from an unconscious, dumb, energy source or multiple ones, but it defies common sense and reasoning. We can clearly observe complexity, design, and order throughout the universe. The possibility of a single all powerful, intelligent, energy source (God) still remains ( This is more logical).

Atheists may also say " Well, based on the 2nd law of thermodynamics God may eventually disorganize and deteriorate overtime if he is composed of energy". God is composed of energy but not entirely energy. The God I serve is composed of INFINITE INTELLIGENCE as well.

(cont.) He can certainly be intelligent enough to break the boundaries of the 2nd law and find a way to harness his energy infinitely and NEVER result in disorder. If you can't agree with this explanation, you're putting limits on God which is simply IDIOTIC.

PS: This song will be found in the track, "Crucifixion" from the "Passion of the Christ" soundtrack.
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[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

There are actually a few videos like this for other religions as well - particularly Islam for some reason.

[atheist_angel]

:eek: And if their logic was sound, which it is not; exactly how would this prove religion and bible to be legitimately true? I kind of liked it when you referred them as crackpots, before....it really fits!

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

Well the title of the thread does reflect what I think of this video I must admit.

[Fearless]

Wow, that video converted me... amazing.

[c2009]

Atheists, please stop making claims without support or scientific evidence. Also, please stop asking questions which were already answered in this video. EX. "Who created God?" Again, the 1st law confirms energy is eternal. Before the universe began, there must have existed an ORIGINAL, initial, energy source which has ALWAYS existed. This initial, original, energy source IS God.That's about all that he/she *may* have a point on. I love the call for evidence - what evidence is there to support the existence of God in the video?!?

Naturally, we don't know the cause of the beginning of the universe - it may well have been a result of the implosion of another, larger universe (It has to be larger, as there'll inevitably be energy converted into another form (which there's every probability we can't detect) to fuel the process of the bringing into the existence of the universe.

Something caused the beginning of the universe, alright, but because we don't know what came before ours, we simply can't make any conclusions as to what it was.

Further, God's intelligent can't be infinite if there is a finite amount of things to know about in the first place (which there will be, though the number will obviously be large).

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

Ah yes - it could be the Flying Spaghetti Monster - you never know ;)

[SchizoDeluxe]

Before the universe began, there must have existed an ORIGINAL, initial, energy source which has ALWAYS existed

This is also a partial explanation on the big bang theory and yet they dispute the same argument that nothing cannot become something. It is the SAME EXACT THING! The difference here is they have to put a face to it to make themselves feel good.

[Fearless]

This is also a partial explanation on the big bang theory and yet they dispute the same argument that nothing cannot become something. It is the SAME EXACT THING! The difference here is they have to put a face to it to make themselves feel good.

So remind me where god came from? Before he created everything was he just shooting the breeze floating around? Did he just appear one day somehow? Did he create himself?

c'mon, I need answers!

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

So remind me where god came from? Before he created everything was he just shooting the breeze floating around? Did he just appear one day somehow? Did he create himself?

c'mon, I need answers!

Actually the Flying Spaghetti Monster created God - it's surprising many believe in God when they should worship His Noodlyness - RAmen

[Mister Pervert]

Actually the Flying Spaghetti Monster created God - it's surprising many believe in God when they should worship His Noodlyness - RAmen

"That's the way Bebop was..."

[SchizoDeluxe]

Actually the Flying Spaghetti Monster created God - it's surprising many believe in God when they should worship His Noodlyness - RAmen

See that just makes total sense :D

[robertkd]

Again, the 1st law confirms energy is eternal. Before the universe began, there must have existed an ORIGINAL, initial, energy source which has ALWAYS existed. This initial, original, energy source IS God.
my understanding is no the universe will eventually convert all there is to convert to energy in about 27 trillion years, at which time there wont be enough energy to toast a marshmallow :mad:


( GOD IS THE CREATOR WHO IS UNCREATED)
is this a double negative ??

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

Ah wait I just thought about the beloved E=mc^2 from Einstein and I'm thinking that perhaps the Universe was initially mass which could have been converted to energy because that's what a blackhole is theoretically - it is a mass with a density so great that it is not made up of wholesome atoms but rather built like a very very large stable nucleus composed entirely of quarks or some other small-order unit of matter which is packed in this form.

The theory goes that if an object was moving fast enough then eventually the energy used to move the object would be converted into mass - I am wondering if the inverse could be true and hence accounted for the initial stages of the expansion of the universe and gravitational forces and the clustering of the matter cloud.

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

E=mc^2

E
m = —————
c^2 /¯¯¯¯¯
/ E
c = / ———
/ m
√

Since there was an enormous amount of energy then some of it must have originally been mass - according to the first equation above.

Although the energy to mass (J/kg) ratio is always constant c (the speed of light - or 299 792 458 m/s) and of course the ratio of E to c^2 is the mass.

Since c^2 is a constant then the mass varies entirely with E which is the only variable in the corresponding equation.

If anyone here is actually an astrophysicist or something like that feel free to correct me on this one.

[robertkd]

and here I was thinking the sun for all it's chaos, was in fact quite orderly :p

me thinks the guy is a tad delusional

[atheist_angel]

It's energy is eternal. The first law of thermodynamics confirms that. The law states: 'energy cannot be created or destroyed'.Actually the first law of thermodynamics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_law_of_thermodynamics) is a reference to the calculating the change of the internal energy, not eternal energy. And it's in reference to a closed system, not an open one. Could someone explain it to me please? :confused: I've got something wrong.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Triple_expansion_engine_animation.gif

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

Internal energy is the energy contained in a system. Energy is always transferred in order to maintain equilibrium in a system. No system can be completely self-contained and some energy is always lost in its environment so it maintains equilibrium. Thus you cannot have a perpetual machine.

A truly closed system is physically impossible.

[atheist_angel]

The quote was from the video. I was referring to the guy seeing the model of the universe as an open system. I don't understand what the first law of thermodynamics has to do with a g-d holding the universe together, or why the video appears to misrepresent the first law. I can't understand the point of view of the guy in the vid. Maybe he's just a complete nutter, instead of only half nuts, or maybe I missed something I needed to see to make the connection. I don't know. I'm not going to obsess over it though. But if I was confident that he had a clue, nothing would stop me from trying to solve it. I love this kind of shyt. It's fun.

[Atrax Robustus]

It's a failure from the start to the end.

Theoretical physics says he's wrong, quantum physics says he's an idiot! A bit of research and checking proves he's a liar!

Typical theistic misinformation aimed at the ignorant bystander. :mad:

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

And practical applied physics - the sort used in engineering says he's a retard.

[Cosmic Teapot]

And practical applied physics - the sort used in engineering says he's a retard.

Don't worry about practical applied physics; I say he's a retard.
I try not to get caught up in the youtube religion vs atheism wars, however, GoGreen18 does have a very nice bunch of coconuts. Her cleavage says he's a retard too. Case closed.