06 - Olympian Cafe and Bar

[Xeno]

Here be drinking, talking, and occasionally glancing at the Gods & Demons thread (http://www.atheistfoundation.org.au/forums/showthread.php?t=14563). No game play from participants in this thread please, but spectators may speculate, point and laugh, or disparage gameplay here with impunity. :thumbsup:

[Logic please]

One nectar and ambrosia, please. ;)

[Xeno]

Working on it, Hermes. I'm not as fast as you :p

I tried hiring a lovely person as manager, waitress and cleaner but she has not turned up for work yet. :headbang:

[Xeno]

Here's mud in your eye, coming right up.

[Xeno]

She did run a good bar. I wonder whether she is still around? I think I am having trouble with the 457 visa for the other one.

[Voltairine]

Things are a bit busy here. Time to break out the 4-pack. :D

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Working on the nectar...
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[Xeno]

Volts! Thank gods you're here.
It could take a while.

[Voltairine]

Found a bottle of this out the back. Thought I'd get it ready...

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[Voltairine]

And this is for anyone and everyone.

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[Voltairine]

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[Annie]

Phew! I thought I was about to be recruited to the ranks of all the other god nutters in that thread! And for what? What? I ask! For merely balancing Priapus' alleged over endowment. Never trust a god.

Sorry Xeno. I'm here now. I will remain here. Just not let those gods exaggerate their penile attributes for I'm not sure my restraint will remain controlled. Unlike those over yonder thread. I am but a mortal.

[Xeno]

After the game is over, as well as the usual scumboard and afterlife board, I will publish the game spreadsheet, so you will be able to see who requested what and whom they targetted, information not available from previous games except by observation or anecdote.

[Voltairine]

Gods pee? :eek:

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

Which one of you gods made my television set explode?

[Rhys]

The god of wine is dead. So no wine for anyone.

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

Wine is for pussies.

Pikkiwoki, have you got a lovely bunch of coconuts?

[Rhys]

LBA is recently departed. Perhaps we should offer her a glass of wi---oh :(.

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

HURR! I PRITHEE THOU FALSETH, HAST THOU DOTH BOGGETH THE HAW! THINE OWN MOCTURIATIONS BE LURGID, WITH CELLOPHANE BOROTH THE GLOPHTERINE! I pray for thou heathens THAT SHALL NOT BE IN HEAVEN, THAT THOU REALIZE THOU ART DRIVING DOWN THE WRONG PATH. THOU HAST FORGOTTON A LEFT TURN! Consider the lilies. In the field. HARK! A GIANT CENTIPANGEL DOTH SPOKETH THE BAW and... shit...
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A NEW ERA DOTH BEGINNETH! UPDATE THY GARDENS AND THOU SHALT HAVE ETERNAL LIFE BITCHES!

[Xeno]

It is interesting modding now that I have played a few games. It is quite surprising how close it remains near the end, even where, as here, it looks at first as though not a finger has been laid on the scum, none of him or them being dead yet.

The eventual resolution may not be as simple a contest as one might think.

[Xeno]

It does. What is more, it is possible to have multiple layers of redirection (A->B->C) although it has not happened yet.

[Logic please]

In the god business, there's two types. The quick and the dead.

Not withstanding my nomenclature, guess which one I am?

Whoops. :D

[Xeno]

Wine in hand in the Olympian cafe, I offer a short narrative from a GM view.

Day 1 basically showed a problem that unfamiliarity with best strategy for a no-PM game caught the gods napping. On the first night, four of the six requested doctor power to protect themselves and two received it, but were not attacked. Two players tried to investigate (and surely the first night is the safest time to do it) but were unfortunate in two respects: they chose to investigate each other and one was killed by the demons anyway.

Gods were off to a very poor start but with me showering powers on them like confetti, the position was recoverable if people were willing to publicly say and question things.

On day 2 when LBA was lynched she had a Seer power and discovered Protium was not a demon. I used the "dying breath" power to pass her message to a random player. Unfortunately for the gods, the target chanced to be Durro the Demon. No-one asked who received the message or what it was, but surely only a demon would want to conceal it? Durro would either have to reinforce town with a true answer or else lie about it, which the Lie Detector power was there to pick up.

I made a mistake myself here when I forgot to take the Seer power out of the game with LBA.

LBA's death caused her twin, Protium, to turn from townie to independent. He could win by removing demons and forming the majority of town by converting people overnight. His first target was Durro, which would have nullified him as a demon, which he would have to conceal from wolty, but Durro had sought and been given Redirection power so it was actually Threat who was recruited. When Protium was lynched on day 3 then the conversion power went with him. Had he not been lynched (Protium was throwing hints to Threat in-thread) then he was well placed.

LP discovered Threat was not a demon before he (Threat) converted to the cult but the answer was true anyway. However, LP did not disclose this information to anyone.

On the final day, Threat learned that Durro was not town, not a god, so I am mystified why he wrote as if Durro were innocent in the last post on the Day 3 thread. It seemed odd also that gods did not use the range of powers available to them. Several were never requested, like tracker and watcher which are both quite powerful in my definitions. Redirection is a strong power which was discovered and exploited.

The final night was set up as a shootout. The demons followed their optimal strategy, which deservedly put the odds in their favour, and the gods did not respond.

This game worked for testing my approach but obviously needs a much larger game and more engagement by players to work properly. The basic strategy for a no-PM game as I understand it is for townies to be forthrightly public about their intentions and actions. Scum will have little choice but to join in, when town can firstly spot inconsistencies in stories and secondly use the Lie Detector power. Given powers rotate, there is no risk in exposing that you have used any particular power.

[wolty]

Xeno, is it that you didn't update the last days game sheet from Threat to SC? We got that in quite late. :)


Rhys, we had 3 or 4 choices to kill on the first night, namely Threat, SC, LP and you. We had already decided to leave out Protes and LBA. We ended up with you and Threat. Because Threat and SC didn't vote, it meant they were already starting the day with votes, that ruled them out for a kill overnight. You drew the short straw because you voted. :)

[Xeno]

You are right, I did not update the sheet but I saw your amendment in time and changed the final day post I had drafted.

I will fix the sheet. Done.

[Voltairine]

Hmmm okay, I still don't have a clue about this game... :p

[Xeno]

Well, it had more powers bopping around the place, theoretically available, than previous games but rotating powers games with chance allocation have been done before. See Durro's Ninja game. The main difference here in terms of powers (other than that there were some new ones) was that not all would be obtained on any given day or night.

I still think the more significant difference in play terms was the no-PM rule. Town, as a whole, never really came to grips with that from what I could see.

[simonecuttlefish]

Well, my random murder didn't work out that well :) Still, I'm being punished for my naughtiness. I tripped over the heater last night and smashed my face against the wall so hard there is a plate sized hole in the wall. Sadly I don't bruise, so the only evidence is some skin off my knee and a whopping hole in the wall near the floor. I'm not sure how the real estate will take to this one :(

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

I tripped over the heater last night and smashed my face against the wall so hard there is a plate sized hole in the wall.
First impressions are very important.

[reddix]

I'm in the mood for some pop.

I'll have a Cola, please.

[Sir Patrick Crocodile]

C-O L-A Co-la? How about some so-da. S-O D-A so-da? for Y-O D-A yo-da? (dunnunnunnun, nunnunn...)

WOOOOO! COLOURS MAN! woah.

[reddix]

Pop is fine, thanks. :)

[Threat]

Nice summary Xeno. I think you were spot on with the no-PM throwing us, and the lack of engagement (of which I was party to).

On the final day, Threat learned that Durro was not town, not a god, so I am mystified why he wrote as if Durro were innocent in the last post on the Day 3 thread.

Ummmm... I was thinking that the most likely scenario was Demons winning, but the next most likely was there being 1 demon, 1 town and my recruited little self. I didn't know if the game kept going in that scenario... but if it did, I thought me claiming an investigation showing the scum player would be more suspect than trustworthy, and that the scum would kill me. So I tried to sound extremely innocent, and appear useful for scummy Durro to keep around, just in case the scenario I outlined above eventuated, I could then convince the town to lynch the last scum with me.

Thinking about it later, I guess if there's 1 town, 1 independant and no scum, town wins. So I guess I couldn't win anyway (as you alluded to with the 'with only revenge left' comment). So then I thought 'well f&*k it'. I can't win anyway.

Without the PMs, no-one trusted anyone. It was a learning experience. :)